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OpenClaw炸场背后,这5个人的饭局才是真主角

OpenClaw炸场背后,这5个人的饭局才是真主角

👋 先问一个扎心的问题:

你用OpenClaw,有没有那么一瞬间,觉得它比人还靠谱?

上周看完中关村论坛那场圆桌,我的答案是:有。

而且不止我一个。

🔴 开场引入:

上周的中关村论坛,我定了个一早的闹钟,就为了看那场「小龙虾与AI开源圆桌」。

杨植麟(主持人)、智谱张鹏、无问芯穹夏立雪、小米MiMo罗福莉、港大黄超。

图:圆桌嘉宾从左至右 — 夏立雪、张鹏、杨植麟、罗福莉、黄超

从模型层到算力层再到Agent层,AI产业链最活跃的几个角色,齐了。

▌ 我看完最大的感受就两个字——

━━ 实在。 ━━

━━ 全程无尿点,没有一句场面话。 ━━

🟠 OpenClaw的秘密:

【 它到底牛在哪?】

▌ 张鹏说:OpenClaw本质是一个脚手架。

不是聊天机器人,是脚手架。

它把原本需要写代码才能实现的东西,变成了普通人一句话搞定。

▌ 夏立雪给了一组数据,我看完直接沉默了——

从一月底到现在,token用量每两周翻一番,已翻了十倍。

▌ "上次见到这种速度,还是3G时代手机流量增长的感觉。"

▌ 罗福莉更直接:OpenClaw在Agent框架设计上,有多处领先Claude Code。

▌ 有意思的是——最近Claude Code的很多更新,其实都在向OpenClaw靠拢。

▌ 黄超说了一句更绝的:OpenClaw给用户一种"活人感"。

之前用Agent,感觉在操控工具。

▌ OpenClaw让你第一次有了"贾维斯"的实感。

🔵 智谱的真相:

【 GLM5提价,其实是个阳谋】

▌ 张鹏说:原来做问答,消耗10个token。

▌ 现在模型帮你完成任务——自主规划、debug、处理多模态信息——

▌ 消耗100个token,多的甚至1000个。

▌ "提价本质是在回归商业价值。

▌ 长期低价竞争不利于行业持续发展。"

▌ 说实话,这比很多PR稿诚实多了。

🟡 推理时代的水位:

【 谁在裸泳,这次说清楚了】

夏立雪画了三层框架:

▸短期:更高效的token工厂

▸中期:Agentic Infra,让算力响应Agent节奏

▸长期:基础设施本身变成智能体,Agent跟Agent直接通信

她这句话我截图存了下来:

▌ "现在云计算的基础设施,是为人类工程师设计的,不是为AI设计的。"

▌ ——说白了,用人类的操作边界,限制了AI的发挥空间。

🔵 中国队的底牌:

【 恰恰是被逼出来的】

罗福莉指出了一个反直觉的事实:

▌ DeepSeek v2/v3的细粒度MoE,Kimi的KSA,小米的high sparse架构——

这些改变游戏规则的创新,全都是在算力不够的条件下硬逼出来的。

▌ "算力限制催生了对更高训练效率、更低推理成本的模型结构的全新探索。"

这,可能是中国AI圈最有底气的一句话。

🔧 Agent的真实痛点:

▌ 黄超说得很实在:

▸planning:模型在复杂垂直任务里缺隐性知识,需要固化经验

▸memory:信息压缩不准,分层设计缺通用解法

▸skill:高质量skill稀缺,低质量的反而把完成度拉低

▌ 而且——当每个人都拥有一群OpenClaw(Agent Swarm),上下文会暴增,现在的memory架构根本扛不住。

最后,每人一个词展望12个月:

📢 黄超:生态

🔄 罗福莉:自进化

⚡ 夏立雪:可持续token

🔋 张鹏:算力

🔍 我的感受:

▌ 这场圆桌最让我触动的地方——

没有一个人画饼。

▌ 没有"AI改变世界"的空洞宣言,没有"我们模型最牛"的比稿。

每个人都在聊真实的困难、真实的瓶颈、真实的解法。

▌ 这大概就是圈内人说"值得一听"的真正原因。

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💬 聊5毛钱的:

你用OpenClaw最爽(或者最崩溃)的一次是什么?

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  2. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `fenlei` [ RunTime:0.001390s ]
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  4. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 63 [ RunTime:0.005779s ]
  5. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.001274s ]
  6. SELECT * FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.000582s ]
  7. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `article` [ RunTime:0.001476s ]
  8. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` = 492635 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001148s ]
  9. UPDATE `article` SET `lasttime` = 1775044867 WHERE `id` = 492635 [ RunTime:0.040048s ]
  10. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `id` = 64 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.006670s ]
  11. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 492635 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.001821s ]
  12. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` > 492635 ORDER BY `id` ASC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.000542s ]
  13. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 492635 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10 [ RunTime:0.001042s ]
  14. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 492635 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10,10 [ RunTime:0.017178s ]
  15. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 492635 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 20,10 [ RunTime:0.016493s ]
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